Early in his training John asked Liang about Qigong. Liang explained what it was – energy work – and advised John to get a Tibetan teacher because the Tibetans have the best Qi. So John found himself two Tibetans residing in London: Geshe Damchö Yonten (1930-2017) and Chime Rinpoche (1941-) with whom he studied both Qigong and Tibetan Buddhism. After a couple of years he began to have doubts about the work and asked Geshe "Is Qi internal?" to which Geshe replied "No, of course not." He then went on to explain that Qi is no more internal than muscular strength.